...I would have perhaps phrased it differently, but it does generally take time for tulpas to develop and gain their own experience to contextualize knowledge.
Let me address this in order:
@Castiel Patience. A quality we need but rarely posses
Pushin' is what I do well.
Pessimism. I like that.
I have no Idea. I just assume blowing up equates to elation and constriction is a form of irritation.
9 is just a special number.
@Srn347
Nin9 is pronounced as "Nine. 9. Nein."
@Clo That thing with patience, the phrase about it being a virtue? Too true.(edited)
Patience is extremely important in making a tulpa. Progress doesn' simply happen due to desire, it happens with work, and time. ...generally, quite a bit of time.
6:25 AM
Steady effort is far better than a large burst of effort and later stopping almost entirely.
If you are finding it difficult to be patient and stay motivated, feel free to talk here. Use a reminder of some kind, such as a piece of string around your finger, or a cell phone alarm.
Who's to say? Time has had this bad habit of creeping up on me and when I try to grab it, POOF, gone like a fart in the wind. Although I suppose that's my fault. "Run your day or have your day run you" and all that.
Oops, there I go rambling on a tangent. Let me corral my point here. I worry about two things essentially: That my bad habits won't allow Nin9 to come to fruition or that my bad habits will corrupt them. There, much simpler.
There are two ways to handle this, both of which I think are good and both of which can be done simultaneously.
6:41 AM
First, be clear that you consider these habits to be negative and try to advise Nin9 to act in a way that you consider more positive - perhaps show them the world and examples of why you believe the alternatives are more positive.
6:41 AM
Second, pay attention to your own bad habits and see why you act on them - consider what needs they are fulfilling in your life, and see if you can find alternate habits or alternate behaviors that fulfill those needs instead.
6:41 AM
That way, you can correct your own habits for your own sake - and for Nin9's.
I love how both of these things are things that can immediately be put into place and, assuming I'm not half-assing this, leave no room for deliberation, the silent killer. I'll think on that Winter.
Oh yeah, thank you. This will be helpful.
It's not anything too bad. I just think too much and waste too much time and then waste more time by getting frustrated. A vicious, wasteful cycle.
Although now I've a question for you
6:48 AM
How can you answer me so quickly and decisively? Personal experience, maybe? Or is it that your host/tulpa, I cannot tell one from another, is that worldly and wise?(edited)
We have a mutual interest in learning, in general - though our specific topics of preference do differ in some respects.
6:52 AM
As for decisiveness, Skye is good at recognizing traits in individuals and applying prior knowledge to the situation as appropriate.
6:52 AM
I am not quite as good at it myself, but I can trust her judgement of a situation in these cases.
6:52 AM
If she were not awake, I would likely find it quite a bit more difficult.
6:53 AM
@Srn347 This is my place to interact with people. I need my own space where I can freely interact with others and not need to worry about her... taking over communication. She is quite a bit more extraverted than I am.
Spreading misinformation (such as information about a phenomenon different than what is typically referred to as a 'tulpa', or information that is literally not physically possible) is something I would like to avoid.
6:58 AM
In other words - if somebody wants to create a genuinely autonomous secondary personality that is 'separate' from them and as much a person as they are themselves, I will advise them to make a tulpa.
6:59 AM
If they want a character to play with, or to push their less attractive traits onto, or to use as a role model, I will not advise them to make a tulpa - they should write it up and try to work on their own self instead.
7:00 AM
If they want help with mental problems of any kind, I will advise them to seek mental help from a professional and point out that a tulpa is no replacement for that help - similarly the case for people who want a friend.
7:01 AM
If somebody is making claims that don't add up to how the brain works, and using a 'tulpa' as the name for something other than that autonomous second personality separate from themselves, I don't care if they feel offended - I will call them out on it and try to correct the misinformation so that people can achieve genuine success.
7:02 AM
In other words - if people want answers, I want to make sure they get correct answers and not flights of fancy. If those correct answers are not what they want, perhaps they weren't looking for a tulpa in the first place.
I do not want a sycophant nor do I want a doll. I don't need a doctor or a shrink. I need discipline and balance. Someone who can really understand that is hard to come by. I figure if I can't get it outside, I merely need a friend on the inside. Someone to talk to, shoot the shit with, and call me out on that aforementioned shit.
Then, it does sound as if you are looking for a tulpa. That said, remember that a tulpa is another person and that making a tulpa will quite literally change the rest of your life.
As long as you are going to treat them as a person - with all the respect and kindness they are due.
7:05 AM
A tulpa can be a companion, and they can help you, but one should not be created with the intent to use them - rather, with the intent to treat them with that kindness and respect, and forge a proper companionship to live your life with.
Ah - incidentally, I do share quite a few opinions and positions with Skye (though not all of them). However, these are ones that can be reasoned to based on the information we have available, largely because we have discussed the topics at great length internally to try and arrive at the most logical possible conclusion.
See, normally I'd give an equally wordy response showing disdain, agreement, or counter to what you've just said. But I am 1/3rd energy drinks in and I've a meeting in like two hours and for how I may seem, I'm just not that complex.
7:17 AM
I just say what I know/think/feels right and leave myself open to be persuaded otherwise.
I hope, I assume, I infer... As much as I might wish it weren't so... I'm human. And I work with what I've got. And every day I come to grips with that is a day it gets easier to admit it to others. A day that makes it easier to relate.
Tulpa Update 1: going to spend some time with remedios tonight while camping with some friends. I've been trying to talk with her while at work, but I'm out of practice and it's been hard.
On what was said in #tulpa-research , "it feels real to the host and they believe in it" might sound nice and all, but it is barely a standard definition of switching
